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原文網址 Jose Antonio Fernandez Camero 2016-01-21 02:35:43
A quick question!
I just finished the assembly of another ATOM 2.0, but when I plug the 12v adapter the fans start spinning but the LCD doesn't works... but if I unplug the 12v adapter and plug a computer by USB the LCD works!
What can it be wrong, I double checked the wiring and looks fine.
Thanks!
Jose Antonio Fernandez Camero 2016-01-21 03:12:51
Fixed, changed the mainboard for a new one, looks like the mainboard was faulty, tomorrow I will check it to see what is wrong with it. Thanks everyone ;)
Birk Binnard 2016-01-21 06:49:18
My first motherboard had an very obscure problem - it was some sort of internal short circuit (or something) that caused the reading of the X limit switch to be interpreted incorrectly, but only when the X & Y limit switches were triggered together. Individually all the limit switches worked OK, and so did the X-Z and X-Y pairs. Only the X-Y pair gave a bad result.
Jose Antonio Fernandez Camero 2016-01-21 07:10:14
Its extrange, as soon as I get some time I will check the signals with the polimeter...
Clarence Lee 2016-01-21 09:12:41
Check 12v => 5v regulator and L1
Jose Antonio Fernandez Camero 2016-01-23 06:23:53
I checked and it looks like the regulator, Ill change it, thanks Clarence Lee
原文網址 Bobble Chang 2016-01-20 14:44:27
分享最近協助印製的成品 順便求救一下!! 有沒有人遇過LCD有亮不過沒有顯示出字的問題?
麥麥 2016-01-20 14:45:45
插頭那邊動一下,或者拔起來重插看看,應該就會有了
廖新弘 2016-01-20 19:51:56
小心迪士尼告侵權
原文網址 林瑋群 2016-01-20 02:47:33
不好意思想要請教一下,因為有一段時間沒有用我的atom 2.0,我今天在用的時候在網路上看到更新的版本好像可以直接在機臺設定z offset,我就更新我的atom韌體然後我照著官方的影片更新,可是不知道為什麼我的lcd面板上還是沒有setting z offset的選項?在upload的時候有跑出這個不知道是什麼
Yu Chi Wang 2016-01-20 02:49:44
Eredh Ereb 2016-01-20 03:48:41
沒成功跟電腦連線中途斷掉了?確定port對再試一次?
原文網址 MoMo Yang 2016-01-17 22:59:07
[ATOM另類用途]
剛剛在作範例,找不到LCD,靈機一動,發現ATOM的另一個用途,不過LCD太小了一點,能做的有限,還是得找一塊大一點的LCD
游正宏 2016-01-17 23:07:42
我笑了, 以後等待列印的時候還可以玩一下?
戴士偉 2016-01-17 23:45:31
這個不錯喔~
李穆 2016-01-17 23:47:08
新開發的韌體能增加這個功能嗎?XDDDD
Cheng Chu Yu 2016-01-18 12:16:40
不要這樣浪費才能XDD
原文網址 Birk Binnard 2016-01-15 06:01:46
PID Values gone wacky?
I recently had to change my printer's thermistor, after which you are supposed to update the printer's PID values because, apparently, different thermistors behave somewhat differently. Well, I did not do that, and then I noticed my hotend temperatures were deviating quite a lot from the specified value. "Quite a lot" means up to 20 degrees.
Well needless to say this caused all sorts of extrusion problems, so I figured I better do the PID reset. I followed the steps on the Atom2 website and ended up with these values: Kp = 30.90, Ki = 2.79, and Kd = 93.32.
I used the LCD panel to enter these values and then did a Store Memory/Load Memory. So I think I got the new values saved OK. I did notice that the new values were quite a bit different from the ones previously in the firmware.
Now my printer is printing and doing a great job with extrusion. But the LCD says the temperature is 166/200. This can't be true because at 166 my PLA filament would be completely solid. But the extruder is working fine and the layers look great.
In the time I have typed this the LCD has changed to 177/200. So I must have messed something up - but what?
PS: Now the LCD says 167/200 - but printing looks A-OK.
Edit: After about 12 minutes the hotend jammed and the extruder was not able to feed filament. So my guess is there is something messed up with the temperature control.
Edit 2: I hooked the printer up to Simplify3D's Machine Control Panel and watched the temperature plot as I tried different values for the hotend temperature. All of the plots looked good - I changed temps from hotter to colder and back again and the indicated temp always hit the specified value right on - and held it. Moreover, the LCD display also indicated the correct temperature and was in agreement with the temperature plot.
So I started my actual print again and (again) it seems to be going ok. But the LCD says 167/200 right now.
Most confusing indeed.
Clarence Lee 2016-01-15 08:57:19
Is side fan blowing when it's 16x/200 ? Is bottom wind shielding available? Where did you get the thermistor? Is it NTC 100K? B 3950? Or even have a model number like MF58
原文網址 Roy Lo 2015-12-29 00:28:29
剛剛發生詭異的事了.... 機器插上SD卡, 開始列印, 溫度跳動 10 度(一度以為是天氣變冷+靠窗邊), LCD 面板的操作反應慢半拍, 列印的過程也發出怪聲, 索性把 SD 格式化.... 重新列印, 誒.... ~~~ 又正常了, 溫度變得很穩, 列印也很順~~ 奇怪ㄋㄟ
Charlie Ting 2015-12-29 00:40:19
這個之前有 po 過了心得了. SD卡的內容不宜過多, 因為它讀寫久了, 容易有異常, 讀寫速度會越來越慢.
MoMo Yang 2015-12-29 08:23:56
嗯sdcard裡面的檔案不宜太多,因為韌體實作檔案列表的方式很沒有效率(但這樣的mcu也只能這樣寫了)
原文網址 Birk Binnard 2015-12-25 04:19:12
Possible problem with heating resistor?
I normally print PLA @ 190 degrees. But for the last week I've been unable to complete a print due to poor (or no) extrusion. So after trying various options (like disassembling printhead, different filament, different Z-heights, higher temperatures, etc.) what seems to be happening is the printhead will extrude ok for about a minute or so, but then all extrusion stops. At this point I can neither manually feed filament through the hot end nor can I retract the filament out of the hot end. The only way I can get extrusion back is to disassemble the entire printhead and remove some melted filament stuck in the bottom of the nozzle.
Sometimes heating to 240 degrees helps resolve the problem, but not always. So I'm thinking there might be something wrong with the heating resistor - even though the LCD temperature readout seems to be OK.
I have seen the video about how to completely disassemble the printhead, so perhaps I should try replacing the heating resistor. Are the specs for the Atom2 heating resistor published anywhere? Perhaps there is a place here in the US where I can get a replacement.
Charlie Ting 2015-12-25 08:05:10
Seems not. Details will be later in hours. Today is a tough day to me.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-25 08:11:17
Understand - thanks
Clarence Lee 2015-12-25 09:00:13
If it's problematic after a few mins, the first I would check is the back cooling fan effective. It sound like coldend too hot. Try to measure the temperature around coldend area.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-25 13:50:25
The back fan is OK - I can tell by the sound it makes. I did stall the blades once when I reassembled the printhead, but that was immediately obvious and has not happened again. Only one of my side-blowing fans works (I should have replacement fans in a couple more days) so this could result in uneven temperatures, but would this be enough to cause hot-end clogs?
Clarence Lee 2015-12-25 14:06:10
hmm I don't think so, but did your inner 3*2 ptfe tube already got the replacement? Maybe a photo focus on the hotend & effector. wondering there might be something related. To tell the heat resistor and thermistor ok or not. Check the temperature by other thermometer.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-25 16:48:43
Yes, I did replace the inner PTFE tube and have checked it several times. It is OK; not burned or melted at all and filament passes through it OK. All the parts in the hot end look good actually - I'll take a pic next time I have it disassembled.
Charlie Ting 2015-12-25 17:35:11
Birk Binnard For your situation, I guess you should try to use the smallest allen wrench to push or pull out the materials stuck in the triangle field of hot-end. In general, the printhead have three regions, PTFE, triangle area, extrusion hold. And we always aware to replace PTFE, but never pay attention to the triangle area. As my personal experience, this area is the most important about the printhead. So, after you clean it up, you may solve the problem you have encountered.
Sébastien Pierre 2015-12-25 23:39:35
Could this be that the PTFE tube can be easily moved within the hotend? The extruder sometimes pull back the filament, which I imagine could also pull the inner tube, leading to some filament getting stuck in between the hotend and the end of the tube. I have similar issues from time to time, but manually pushing the filament usually solves the problem.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-25 23:59:38
that means inner ptfe tube too short Or you are talking about longer one?
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 01:00:08
Here is a pic of my disassembled hot end. The internal PTFE tube is 19mm long and filament passes through it OK. The Quick Connector is just below/behind the 2 yellow wires; it has white filament in it. The heatsink comes off easily and is not clogged or dirty. The pieces of electrical tape are mine - they cover up solder joints where I had re-soldered wires I broke during previous disassembly/reassembly attempts. I am a bit reluctant to take the entire hot end apart for fear of breaking either the heating resistor or the thermistor. I have used the end of a paperclip to poke down the top of the hot end and clean out whatever filament is in there, but the same problem keeps recurring.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-26 01:15:10
19m is too short, it would moving inside up & down when retract
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 01:30:08
Originally the PTFE tube was 23mm long, but I found that the bottom end (the end inside the hot end) was ending up in a slight conical shape that seemed to restrict the filament moving through it. Plus, the PTFE tube is a tight fit inside the metal piece that holds it so I don't think it moves very much (if at all.) I guess I can try a piece 23mm long again just to see what happens.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 02:27:54
OK - I tried a longer tube - 25mm to be exact. Pic #1 shows the longer tube next to the shorter one (19 mm) I had been using. The longer one failed pretty badly. At 200 degrees I was able to push a tiny bit (maybe 4 mm) of filament through the hot en d, but that's all. After that I could neither feed nor extract any filament. So I raised the temperature to 240 degrees - hotter than I have ever used with PLA before - and the filament was still stuck. So I disassembled the hot end and found that the PTFE tube was stuck in the hot end. I managed to get it out with considerable effort (again heating to 240) and Pic #2 show how it looked when it came out.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 02:28:24
Here is Pic #2
Sébastien Pierre 2015-12-26 03:56:43
Yes, the inner one. Mine lost its triangular head when I pulled after it was stuck, so it does have more wriggle room that what it should.
Sébastien Pierre 2015-12-26 04:00:56
Just out if curiosity, what is the yellow bit in the lower left below the fan?
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 05:09:46
It is one of 2 identical horseshoe shaped printed parts called a quick_connector_spacer. It fits in the space at each end of the Bowden tube and significantly reduces the movement of the tube when the printer does retracts. The bottom line is it helps a lot with reducing stringing. I couldn't find it online so here's a link to the STL file: https://drive.google.com/....../0B3EpEEIPcV....../view......
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 06:05:08
I put a new piece of PTFE into the hot end and reassembled it. Before I did this I made sure the inside of the hot end was clear of any old filament or PTFE residue. With the new PTFE and temperature at 200 I can manually push filament through the hot end, but it takes a lot of pressure to do this - basically I have to grab a piece of filament with some pliers and push hard on it to get any extrusion. I doubt any extruder gear would be able to push filament with that much force so my only conclusion is there is something wrong with either the hot end itself, or perhaps the heating resistor. Could the resistor be heating unevenly?
Clarence Lee 2015-12-26 07:42:28
Could you check if resistor not loosen?It should be stable touch the hotend. But since you said the temperature is stable, it`s not like its moving. Or maybe the thermistor problem? Anyway, use multimeter to measure the heat resistor resistance.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-26 07:46:48
Birk Binnard try to use smallest allen key or others to cleanup hotend inside deepest area when heatup the hotend to 200.
Sébastien Pierre 2015-12-26 09:21:35
What is the expected ohm value? I had a broken thermistor when I first assembled the printer and remember that the manual was quite elusive, something like "it works if it is not zero".
Clarence Lee 2015-12-26 09:38:23
it's a range usually not all the same by batch So it's better recalibrate by M303 it shouldn't be 0 or open As I measured before on different batch I got , usually around 2~4 ohm.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 13:15:29
It doesn't look like there are any places on either the resistor or the thermocouple to put the multimeter probes. I might be able to see better tomorrow during the day.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 13:18:07
Actually I found that a 1/16" twist drill works very well for this purpose. Of course I turned it by hand and not in a drill chuck.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-26 13:19:16
multimeter probe on wires where you connect it.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-26 13:20:55
OK - I'll try that tomorrow. Thanks.
原文網址 Birk Binnard 2015-12-18 03:21:54
2.04 Firmware
I loaded it (I think!) but the LCD says 2.03. Is this just a bug or did I mess something up?
I was running 2.02 so I know I changed something.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-18 08:31:58
Bug.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-18 13:46:21
Yes - I thought it might be something like that.. An easy fix for sure. But for me 2.04 has the same problem as 2.03 - it does not remember the Z-offset values. So I will go back to 2.02 (again.)
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-19 17:48:53
Looks like clogged nozzle?Some toothpicks worked really good for me.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-20 02:39:42
It was a clogged nozzle. Fixed it with the 0.400 mm drill and a small unfolded paperclip. US toothpicks are too thick. I wonder if there is an actual tool made for cleaning out 0.400 mm hot end nozzles. Seems like there should be. And I wonder what causes the nozzle get clogged in the first place. Seems to me when it gets hot any PLA inside would get forced out by new filament entering the nozzle.
原文網址 Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 01:23:27
Strange printer behavior
When I turn on my Atom2 the first thing I do is Auto-Home. Now when I do that the printer performs the Auto-Home move OK, but the LCD screen changes to all white rectangles, and there is some sporadic vibration that must be generated by some stepper motor pulses, but none of the motors seems to move at all.
I adjusted the LCD potentiometer so the screen looks OK when the printer is first turned on. But it goes to all white rectangles after Auto Home. However, if I first try some other command, like changing the Fan Speed, the LCD stays OK. But if I then do Auto-Home it changes to all white rectangles.
I have checked all the motherboard connectors and they all seem OK. Could this be some sort of power supply problem? Or is there some other test I should try to identify what is going on?
Clarence Lee 2015-12-17 02:23:54
sounds like power issue, or controller board issue
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 03:59:02
That's my thinking also, but how to identify the actual problem? I have an old motherboard with an internal short that affects the X & Y limit switches ; maybe substituting that might show something helpful.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-17 05:02:29
Maybe use another power source is easier. Usually controller board is not so frequently broken. Unless somewhere short , wrong connection, or the board components quality issue.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 05:06:04
OK. I have an old PC power supply I used once before. If I remember correctly, black is - and yellow is +, correct?
Clarence Lee 2015-12-17 05:22:38
right
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 05:23:27
OK - I'll try that and see what happens. Thanks.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 06:30:08
Well - using the PC power supply got the printer working OK - sort of. The LCD looks OK and the vibrations are gone, and I can do Auto-Home & Auto-Level OK. But when I try to print from the SD card the LCD says ERR:MINTEMP even though it goes up to th e set temperature OK. When it reaches the set temperature the LCD SD value increases from 0 to 100% just like it should with the printer printing, but in fact the print head never moves. When it reaches 100% the printhead does a Home move just like it would if the print actually printed. I did a reload of the firmware (I am using Ver. 2.02) and this had no effect. So the MINTEMP error must be the problem. I thought this meant the thermistor was not working or broken, but the LCD temperature readout looks OK - it goes from 22 to 200 exactly like it is supposed to.. Very puzzling indeed.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 07:16:03
So I wiggled the thermistor connector on the motherboard to make sure it was attached ok and after doing this the MINTEMP error disappeared. So the connector or one of the yellow wires in it must have been loose (or something). I'll try printing a couple of things with the PC power supply and then go back the real one and see if that still gives me problems.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-17 12:43:13
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 14:09:01
Hmmm....that power supply doesn't look like anything I've seen before. But I do recognize the knife holder.
Clarence Lee 2015-12-17 14:20:00
Birk Binnard it's for 1U server ATX power anyway. Just want to say I use PC power for a long time.
Birk Binnard 2015-12-17 15:48:53
Ah - OK. That's a much better shape than the one I have that came from inside an old PC.
原文網址 謝榮晉 2015-12-03 22:13:44
請問有人遇過這種問題嗎?ATOM2.0上5V電時LCD顯示正常,但是上12V電時,LCD畫面就模糊掉了,感覺好像是backlight變更亮導致的。先前使用幾個月都正常,是突然就變這樣了。有人知道怎麼解決嗎?
Ken Lam 2015-12-03 22:19:27
我都有
李穆 2015-12-03 22:37:04
用螢幕背面的可變電阻調一下亮度
Dan Salvador 2015-12-04 01:36:10
Main board is fried, I had the same problem and I needed to replace it
謝榮晉 2015-12-05 23:35:57
李穆 I've adjusted the VR behind the LCD and it returns to normal. Thanks a lot!
Dan Salvador 2015-12-06 00:05:21
Can you please test what happens if you insert the USB cable during a print?
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