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原文網址 Birk Binnard
2017-05-22 06:48:35

Am I wrong?

This photo shows why I think large multi-filament prints done with multi-extruder/single nozzle outputs always end up with a clogged hotend. The reason is that when the current extruder retracts filament to make way for next extruder to feed the next filament, there will always be a string of filament left behind in the hotend.

This photo shows what I found after disassembling my hotend so I could install a new one. I had recently finished a print, and when it finished I manually pulled the filament back from the hotend about 20 cm. I did this so I could take the hotend completely apart. After I got it apart I manually pushed the filament forward so I could see what the end looked like. The photo shows what I found.

Note that there is a long string of filament extending pretty far from the end of the filament. So it seems logical that there would be some bits of filament left behind inside the hotend after any retraction, and this is what I feel results in a buildup sufficient to clog the nozzle during a long print job.

I am most interested in hearing other opinions on this. Thanks in advance.

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邢鳳言
2017-05-22 12:08:27

I used to have long string too, after I made some adjustments to push the PTFE in hotend fimed, the string length became dramatically shortened,

Birk Binnard
2017-05-22 12:12:22

Something happened to the translation - hotels fimed?

黃大丙
2017-05-22 12:19:30

typo, hotels --> hole

Charlie Ting
2017-05-22 12:26:53

You can have some procedures to avoid this issue.

邢鳳言
2017-05-22 12:28:09

"hotend", spell check problem...

Charlie Ting
2017-05-22 12:30:19

For example, each time when you finish printing with any filament, move hotend aside and extrude some filament out from hotend then retract quickly. (So this string will be as short as possible)

Then pull this filament back after the Y tube to have a clear path to put another filament in.

It's not difficult to do this, but a little bothering.

Birk Binnard
2017-05-22 14:48:34

Hi Charlie - that's exactly what Simplify3D does when it makes a tool change. I found that it works pretty well for small parts, but most of mine are large and for a large one (print time more than say 3 - 5 hours) I consistently got a clogged hotend.

This, in turn, required complete disassembly of the hot end and torching the nozzle with a propane torch to clean out carbonized filament. Since doing this requires cutting & re-soldering wires there are only so many times this can be done before spare parts are needed.

Charlie Ting
2017-05-22 15:36:14

it means your nozzle has something wrong. I think these may happen in your system:
1. Cooling fan is not perform well to cold the nozzle down. (the throat)
2. The thermal resistance of your nozzle is too high.
3. The O-ring is mal-function to resist the thermal passing through.
4. The PTFE tube transfer too much heat from the head to the filament.

You should try to make sure all these works fine, not clean them every time. XDD

Birk Binnard
2017-05-22 20:30:45

Thanks Charlie - I see what you mean now. What you say is certainly possible since my hotend is comprised of parts from 2.0 & 2.5 EX and is totally non-standard. I'll try some different configurations and see what I can figure out.

Birk Binnard
2017-05-24 02:50:15

I think I may have solved this problem. Here is my blog page explaining what happened and what I did to fix things: http://wp.me/P8JtoQ-96

Harry Cayne
2017-05-28 15:45:06

I also have this issue

Harry Cayne
2017-05-28 15:46:29

I tried to push the ptfe tube as deep as I could but still

Dennis Chen
2017-05-28 16:18:50

Did you try to push the ptfe by rotating it at the same time with the heated nozzle? This would make it even closer to the bottom.

Harry Cayne
2017-05-28 19:06:23

Dennis Chen no ididn't thanks


原文網址 鄭啓宏
2017-05-21 12:02:32

想請問一下各位,ATOM 2.5 EX 列印到一半後,有列印動作,但噴頭沒有線跑出來,發現整個噴頭沒有加溫,我將機器關掉後,再打開PREHEAT,發現依舊沒有升溫的動作,請問這該往哪個問題方向去找,謝謝

葉世瑋
2017-05-21 12:09:36

加熱陶瓷GG了?

廖新弘
2017-05-21 12:10:42

加熱電線有沒有接好


原文網址 Carmelo Gonzales
2017-05-20 11:38:09

Anyone have experience printing TPU with the ATOM? I just bought a spool and am having troubles with jamming near the hobbed roller.

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邢鳳言
2017-05-20 12:38:00

Try Speed limit to 15mm/S, no retraction


原文網址 阿童
2017-05-18 11:09:44

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Ya Hsuan Wu
2017-05-18 11:39:41

上官大俠
2017-05-18 11:46:28

我是覺得可以設計一個新的面板旋鈕,原本的有點小,不太好轉.....

Robin Hsu
2017-05-18 14:09:31

1.0 的進料馬達軸沒長到可以裝旋鈕吧 @@~


原文網址 曾仲成
2017-05-17 15:06:09

請問一下各位前輩,我這隻圓柱分三段,底部直徑4.0、中間3.0、頂部2.5,結果只有底部4.0的印得出來,中間及上面就不行了,請問這是設定問題還是機器的極限就是這樣了? (我的機器是2.5EX)

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王家豪
2017-05-17 15:10:32

外圍多畫個薄柱

戴士偉
2017-05-17 15:16:36

熱堆積

曾仲成
2017-05-17 15:35:31

了解,感謝大家的回覆,等會兒來試試 ?

Charlie Ting
2017-05-17 16:32:19

放慢速度,最大風扇,每印一層記得 z-lift 一下,然後回抽放慢,這樣有機會印到 1mm 左右。

Jeff Lin
2017-05-17 21:51:24

如何控制每一層z-lift


原文網址 冥羽罪
2017-05-16 22:18:52

請問各位大師,小弟我前幾天剛把我的ATOM2.0升級成2.5EX,但發生的影片中LCD螢幕LAG的問題,不過在沒有列印的時候都是正常順順的,只有再列印的時候才會變成非常LAG,想請問各位有遇過類似的狀況嗎??該怎麼處理??感謝各位!

Bato Wang
2017-05-16 22:35:37

不要再印長直線段的時候轉, 他就會跟得上.... :)

李穆
2017-05-16 23:13:44

這是Marlin程式碼構造的問題,想不到解法,試著印快一點,或是讓直線段被切成很多段gcode來執行吧

林雋哲
2017-05-17 00:19:12

我比較好奇的是 你那片藍色平台貼紙 好用嗎 哈哈 容不容易破?


原文網址 Danny Lin
2017-05-15 09:56:31

2.5EX 機電故障??

各位大大,小弟剛組好新的2.5EX,剛開始組好測試時都正常,只是感覺換料時料頭容易堵住,所以就把噴頭鐵弗龍管拆開重塞,組回去要測試時按home會回復位置,但是要auto level的時候就會嗶一聲然後LCD上面顯示Z Min Error之後就完全不動......囧.....把底盤拆開排線重新檢查也確定晶片電壓都一樣,還是都不動....有人知道怎麼解嗎??

Clarence Lee
2017-05-15 10:01:06

檢查噴頭上的光遮 那邊是否已經觸發了...

Merry Jason
2017-05-15 10:13:24

那個彈簧的螺絲調整一下


原文網址 冥羽罪
2017-05-11 19:11:57

請問各位前輩,小弟我在組裝2.0升級2.5EX套件的時候,在說明書圈起來的螺絲發現有圖中裂開的現象,請問各位有發生過類似的事情嗎?

廖新弘
2017-05-11 19:22:51

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2017-05-11 02:27:54

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原文網址 李穆
2017-05-10 21:46:54

Marlin for 2.5EX 增加料單切換擠出機選項
像我一樣單擠出時懶得換料的人可以考慮

Hawke ChienSheng Liu
2017-05-10 21:51:25

意思是指可以在面板上指定使用哪一台擠料機進行這一次的列印是嗎?\

李穆
2017-05-10 22:26:54

印到一半選擇那個選項會換刀喔,膽量不夠不要嘗試,卡死不負責


 

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