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ATOM 3D Printer Group 造訪社團 » Auto home

原文網址 Winston Shieh
2015-04-11 06:42:14

when we try to print the 300heigh.gcode
Printer was working correctly, initial preparation (auto home,level, preheat, load/unload). However, upon test print the following happened:

1. PLA loaded correctly,
2. Print head start moving to outline first layer.
3. One of the magnetic bearings fall off.
4. Print head falls to its side.
5. LCD Screen goes white. (Machine is turned off)
6. LCD does not turn on after.

We take apart the printer and check the wiring, cannot find anything wrong. the LCD not function any more.
What should we do?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-11 07:56:35

Is there a photo about the fall off "magnetic bearings"?
Another photo needed for the controller board.
Is it still accessible via Pronterface?


原文網址 Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 23:48:05

Current status of new Atom3:
Latest firmware loaded OK; Pronterface sees Atom2 OK; connections for stepper motors limit switches checked OK, but I have the following problems:

1. Control panel AutoHome function causes extruder head to move to the top; as soon as it finishes this move the whole machine start vibrating badly. I immediately switch power off when this happens.

2. With extruder in the middle of the build space the Pronterface m119 command shows X, Y, and Z max all Open, but Z min is triggered. If I manually close the Z min switch it shows as Open. (Perhaps this is the way it is supposed to be but it seems backwards)

3. If I click on the Pronterface Y+ 1 icon the extruder moves to the top (dpesn't this show the 3 steppers are OK?) and stops. Then if I try moving in X or Y direction only the Y stepper moves and Pronterface gives the message "endstop hit: Z:148.94". Nothing happens with I try to move in any Z direction.

4. With power on but heat off the 2 side blowing fans do not run, but the front lowing one does, as does the motherboard fan. These fans did run the very first time I turned the Atom2 on, but I may have done something that burned them out trying to fix the problems in my previous posting here. Setting heat = 185 deg. Pronterface shows correct temp and hot end does get to that temp - but side blowing fans do not run.

Bato Wang
2015-04-10 23:57:43

For 2, you need to check if you connect the wrong pin on the micro switch, it should be C(Common) & NO(Normally Open), and the switch is pressed when nozzle does not touch the bed (Stay open). When touch the bed, nozzle moves and micro switch becomes close and it triggered Z Min. the Pins are labelled on the switch as well.

Bato Wang
2015-04-11 00:04:58

For 4. The always on fan always face rear. You probably put it 180 degree reversed. The two side blowers are activated by the slicer when looping and cooling. Or you can turn it on manually on control > Temperature > Fan Speed. Jog dial set it to 255 should bring the blowers to max speed.

Bato Wang
2015-04-11 00:09:48

Another need to check item for 2: You need to check the three top limiter one at a time, starting from the X (the left hand side) and then the Y (the right hand side) and finally Z (the rear one) . When in the middle, M119 should returns all open, and …… 查看更多

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 00:23:34

Excellent info Bato - thanks. The Fan Speed does control the side blowing fans OK - they start and stop as expected with Fan Speed set to 125 & 0.

I have checked the 3 top limit switches as you describe and each one does show open & closed at the correct time. I will check to see if I have the wires for the extruder limit switch reversed somewhere.

Bato Wang
2015-04-11 00:37:37

For 3, it look like your stepper connectors are plugged into the wrong sockets. (And maybe it related to 1.) in Pronterface, X should move the nozzle left/right, Y for front/back, Z for up/down. you need to check your stepper connectors are in right place.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 00:43:36

I have checked the 4 limit switches and found nothing wrong - except Z min is always triggered. The Z min limit switch came pre-wired with 2 yellow wires leading into a plastic connector. This connector fits only one way into the yellow connector on th …… 查看更多

Bato Wang
2015-04-11 00:48:18

No, don't cut the wire and reverse it yet. You need to check the Z-min micro switch carefully, don't cut the wire yet, you need to check with the two yellow wires soldered to which pins on the micro switch, if possible, take a picture and post here for better understanding.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 00:53:05

OK. I will have to disassemble the print head to do that - working on that now.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 01:28:45

OK - here is a photo of the switch:

Bato Wang
2015-04-11 01:59:31

Hmm... looks fine to me, it is C and NO soldered.....

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 02:06:42

But the switch works - it just works in the opposite way it is supposed to.

I really don't understand this because I thought microswitches could only be open or closed, meaning they either short the 2 wires together, or they don't. And this should …… 查看更多

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 02:08:03

I'm going to put the print head back together now. Have you ever heard of "letting the evil spirits out"? Believe it or not, that has worked for me a few times in the past. Maybe I'll get lucky again.

Mark Chen
2015-04-11 02:23:16

Hi,Bric .Please connect your printer with Pronterface,than send M502,and send G28 ,if the problem is still there....I suggest,record a video to show what situation you got, let us to help you to solve those problem you got,thanks

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 02:25:44

OK - will post results and video as soon as I get things back together.

Mark Chen
2015-04-11 02:29:48

Make sure to upgrade your Marlin again

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 02:38:37

Yes, I did that first thing this morning. Still working on printhead re-assembly. Those sure are small fasteners!

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 04:39:09

No joy. I used Pronterface to give the 2 commands. First one worked OK; second one did the same thing as the LCD AutoHome: extruder moved to top and Y sterper went crazy. See video for the gruesome details.

OK - Facebook won't upload the video - it's 113.MB. I'll upload it to my Google drive. Here's the link for it: …… 查看更多

陳順得
2015-04-11 04:55:09

it look like your endstop didn't work,

陳順得
2015-04-11 05:05:08

or your switch broke

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 05:29:55

I don't think so - because Pronterface shows each limit switch being tripped when I activate them individually by hand.

Clarence Lee
2015-04-11 07:46:03

Birk Binnard Could you check each endstops & stepper motors relation?
X axis : left stepper motor [X MAX ]
Y axis: right stepper motor [Y MAX[ …… 查看更多

Birk Binnard
2015-04-11 13:10:00

After about 2 1/2 hours online with an Atom tech the following has been established:
1. Each stepper motor, when running individually, works Ok and stops OK at it's top end-stop.
2. The X & Z steppers and the Y & Z steppers function properly together a …… 查看更多


原文網址 Winston Shieh
2015-04-10 10:40:53

Auto Home OK, Auto Level OK, start print from SD, the printer stop working. Can anyone help me?

Clarence Lee
2015-04-10 10:46:54

The gcode not correct? looks like moving out of the printable area.
Did you tried the test files ?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/atom3dp/1586312731607016/


原文網址 Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 08:59:50

My Atom2 is brand new and it fails the AutoHome function. When I try that all three carriers move to the top of their columns and then the whole machine start vibrating pretty badly. So I just switched it off. The LCD says "endstops hit: Y" so I know at least my Y end-stop is working OK.

But how can I find out what the real problem is? I tried using the LCD Move Axis commands and they do work OK - the machine moves the extrude OK i n X, Y, and Z directions.

After this I tried Auto Level and the machine started moving the extruder around to different points in the middle of the build area. I shut it off when the extruder crashed into the X column and knocked the 2 X magnetic rods off their sockets.

I guess the Move Axis commands messed up where the printer thinks it's home position is.

Is there a way to safely test movement commands and the functionality of the 4 limit switches?

Bato Wang
2015-04-10 10:00:57

Hi Birk, please do a factory reset after you upgrade your firmware. prepare->restore failsafe->store memory. And if you want to check endstop value, you can use "M119", it will return the endstop value.

Peter Wu
2015-04-10 10:07:35

Hi Birk. It seems that your microswitches didnt work well, First you have to do what Bato said, prepare ->restore failsafe -> store memory.
Shawn just sent you an attachment named "Mastering Atom 2", you can check how to use pronterface to check your machine's state, Its on page 10 and page11. (y)

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 10:21:31

Thanks but - my Prepare menu options do not have a Restore Failsafe option. The last one listed is Move Axis.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 10:22:24

Perhaps the firmware I loaded was not the correct one. I'm checking on how to do the Pronterface checks now.

Bato Wang
2015-04-10 10:23:40

Hmm...if you don't have it in prepare, check it under "control"....if you want to do it in Pronterface, it is much easier....M502 -> M500 will do the job...

Clarence Lee
2015-04-10 10:25:28

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 10:32:13

You are correct - I found it there. But pushing the control knob on it does not bring up another set of menus. So I did Restore Failsafe followed by Store Memory, but that didn't seem to have any effect either.

I'll go get Pronterface and see what I can do with that.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 10:48:49

Well, Pronterface gets an error trying to connect to the printer. I set Pronterface for COM1 @ 250000 and hit Connect but it gave a bunch of error messages ending with "Cannot configure port, some setting is wrong."

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 10:50:25

this is not surprising because I do not see the printer in Device Manager. What I do see is UCB Serial Converter listed under Universal Serial Bus, but that's all.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 10:58:23

OK - turns out the printer is on COM3. So now I can connect to it.

I think I found the problem (or at least a proble). I clicked the Pronterface Home button and the X slider moved to the top and stopped, but when the Y slicer did that the machine started vibrating. So it's pretty clear there is something wring with the Y limit switch.

Bato Wang
2015-04-10 11:02:27

Try to Move your carriers to the middle, use M119 to print out endstop value, and manually press them one at a time and use M119 to see if they returned ok...you probably will see a axis always return open...and that should be the problem

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 11:03:38

Well, this is very interesting.

WIth it's power off I manually moved the extruder to the middle of the print space. THen by hand I closed each of the limit switches and ran an m113 from Pronterface. Each time I got the desired response - y_max triggered, z_max triggered, x_max triggered.

So the vertincal limit switches are working OK.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 11:18:14

I tried tripping the extruder's limit switch but the m119 command returned with all endstops open. So I may have a problem with the z_min switch in the extruder - but even if I do this should not bother the Home function, should it?

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 11:28:43

I used Pronterface to set extruder heat = 185C and it reached that temp quite quickly. I checked the temp in the Atom2 LCD and that also said 185C. SO it's good to know that part works OK.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 11:36:28

Pronterface moves the extruder as expected by clicking it's X, Y, and Z buttons. So I am still quite confused about what is wrong with the printer.

Peter Wu
2015-04-10 13:00:04

Perhaps you should try re-uploading the firmware to the mainboard
https://www.facebook.com/....../%5BFirmware%5D%20atom2.0.rar

Peter Wu
2015-04-10 14:00:21

or you should recheck the position of limit switch on control board.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 15:44:34

Thanks. I will install new (ver. 3) firmware in the morning and check the connections of all 4 limit switches.

Lawrence Lee
2015-04-10 17:12:42

sometimes it could just be the endstop being in the wrong socket, when it homes it always look for X axis endstop first, that can explain one of the carrier hitting top of column violently. Because it's triggering the wrong endstop.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 22:40:45

I got the latest firmware uploaded OK. I checked the Extruder head micro-switch and it turns out I had the adjusting screw turned in too much. So I backed it off allowing the limit switch to open. Ialso checked the connections for each of the 4 limit switches - they all look OK.

Now, when I run the m119 command I get x, y, and z max opened and z min triggered. If I manually close the z min limit switch I get z min opened.

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 22:41:11

This seems backwards - but is it?

Birk Binnard
2015-04-10 22:51:56

I am going to start a new message thread that begins with my current status.

Bato Wang
2015-04-10 23:26:29

Sounds good, Let us focus on your homing issue first.. :)


原文網址 林志鎰
2015-04-07 18:39:17

請問:
我是atom1.2升級2.0用戶
剛更新玩套件後,還是1.2的韌體,此時列印正常,只有兩側風扇不動,
於是更新2.0韌體,發現AUTO home會有很大的馬達卡住聲響,類似「嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯」,AUTO LEVEL更是直衝撞玻璃,兩側風扇還是不動,線路檢查過了,與說明書一致,煩請版大或相關用戶,此問題該如何解決??

陳順得
2015-04-07 18:57:31

要更新升級版,不是2.0版喔

林志鎰
2015-04-07 19:20:27

更新up2.版,也是一樣

陳順得
2015-04-07 19:27:55

有做過清除的動作了嘛?

高北熊
2015-04-07 19:42:40

側吹風扇要動要在切割軟體裏設定風扇轉速

林志鎰
2015-04-07 20:04:54

何謂清除?

李沅融
2015-04-07 23:19:29

剛好我也有相同問題 你需要調整電壓 以及 韌體更新之後 需要在lcd面板 control-->RestoreFailsafe-->storememory

李沅融
2015-04-07 23:19:44

這樣板子才能確實執行韌體

李沅融
2015-04-07 23:21:45

調整晶片電壓 在升級手冊後面 有詳細圖文解說

林志鎰
2015-04-08 12:00:33

我的板子是綠色的,調整方式要以藍色還是紅色為主

李沅融
2015-04-08 16:11:57

板子大家都綠色的 這邊說的是 那4塊 馬達控制晶片組 藍色 是有2顆調整電壓螺絲 紅色是 一顆 請參照 升級寶典 3用電錶 請調到此處量測~看圖

李沅融
2015-04-08 16:13:05

調整電壓的螺絲 很不容易找到合牙的 調整發現電壓沒動 很可能是 沒有轉動到

林志鎰
2015-04-08 17:07:55

話說~沒用過電表><,目前有得到一顆YF-370A電表,要怎麼用? 還有測電壓時須要開機(印表機)嗎? 我是「電」的門外漢...

李沅融
2015-04-08 17:08:49

當然要開電源 電錶調到 圖片的擋位 測量

李沅融
2015-04-08 17:10:47

誤差容許好像是在 正負0.03之間

林志鎰
2015-04-09 12:35:09

電壓正常...重灌0408升級版韌體...就可以正常使用了@@怎麼會這樣??


原文網址 吳沂霆
2015-04-06 15:25:06

又有個問題要來問問大家了...全機也組裝完成了,也已經Autohome以及autolevel了,影片上是測試50*50mm方格的檔案,但進料馬達一點動作都沒有...有那位先進可以指點迷津一下...

傅耀儀
2015-04-06 17:23:41

組好以後 加熱噴頭 進料是正常的嗎?

吳沂霆
2015-04-06 17:41:46

預熱噴頭後,按進料,也沒有做動...

傅耀儀
2015-04-06 17:42:56

那要檢查一下線有沒有插對

范智昆
2015-04-06 17:52:27

看版子上的進料馬達A4988有無插好,有插好話把電壓調整到4.5v. 每一個a4988電壓都要在4.5v上下~

Clarence Lee
2015-04-06 18:46:50

2.0 非升級板本是搭DRV8825 Vref應該不一樣

范智昆
2015-04-06 20:00:53

喝~我搞錯. 但這塊需要電壓調到4.5v. 因為我調過後步進馬達就動了.

傅耀儀
2015-04-06 20:08:51

或是看這插頭有沒有掉

吳沂霆
2015-04-07 08:55:24

剛剛我把X和E的插頭對調測試了一下,這樣變成X軸馬達不做動,進料馬達是OK的~
看樣子是晶片這邊的問題
另外我的是DRV8825,電壓上和A4988有不一樣嗎@@?...不好意思,非本科系,問這樣的蠢問題...


原文網址 廖晉緯
2015-04-06 12:34:55

各位不好意思,想再請問另外一個問題,就是雖然我現在有一個8825有問題,但我想說先接xyz先測(e沒東西),一開始autohome ok,autolevel的時候出現一個有點詭異的狀況,就是噴嘴沒有碰到底就會抬起來(蠻接近底面的),也不會聽到咖一聲,然後如果我把底板整個架高(直接放在固定架上面)就可以正常聽到咖一聲微動彈起的聲音,我等下上傳兩個影片 還在傳 又再次麻煩大家了 感謝

沒有抬高的狀況
http://goo.gl/QggFhs (無法到底)

抬高後
http://goo.gl/u3ybe0 (可以聽到微動的聲音)

廖晉緯
2015-04-06 22:44:00

自問自答,確定是重load韌體就ok了 看有沒有人會遇到一樣的問題可以找到這個


原文網址 楊朝舜
2015-04-04 20:15:57

感謝大家幫忙,已解決更換韌體後AUTO LEVEL抖動的問題。現在遇到的新問題是,無法列印。影片如下。讀取完SD卡的資料後就沒有後續動作了@@!請問是哪邊出問題了 謝謝! (AUTO HOME、AUTO LEVEL 預熱都沒問題。

Rickey Yang
2015-04-04 20:25:54

溫度沒上去

楊朝舜
2015-04-04 20:29:54

預熱溫度可以到兩百(PLA) 手動出料也會出來 但是直接用SD卡列印就是這樣 ~_~

戴士偉
2015-04-04 20:35:30

切片沒設定好,
噴頭溫度沒設定, 沒看到加熱動作

廖新弘
2015-04-04 20:51:10

借用之前解決方法eeprom restore factory default然後save
lcd menu裡應該找得到

楊朝舜
2015-04-04 20:58:08

我是用升級版,已restore failsafe再Store memory了 請問如果要設定噴頭溫度要去menu哪邊設定?切片要在哪邊設定? 謝謝

Mark Chen
2015-04-04 20:59:16

重切吧~ 看起來是檔案有問題?

Mark Chen
2015-04-07 10:06:38

楊朝舜 解決了嗎?

楊朝舜
2015-04-07 12:24:11

Mark Chen 舊的問題解決了。但新的問題來了XD.


原文網址 Chen-Hsiang Chao
2015-04-04 01:03:07

剛組裝完,正要開始校正時Autohome發現Y軸馬達沒動作(沒向上移動),試了幾次都沒用,過程甚至發生馬達強烈震動然後發出達達達的聲音,之後把Y軸端子和X軸互換想說試看看,結果換成X軸不動作,這樣是否是版子出問題呢?還是有其他解決辦法?