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ATOM 3D Printer Group 造訪社團 » 韌體相關話題

原文網址 Birk Binnard
2017-11-18 03:23:08

Firmware 2.0.7 temperature problems

I just installed the latest Atom2 firmware - I know I did this because the LCD says 2.0.7 when the machine powers up. I had been running 2.0.6 which is pretty old.

To test 2.0.7 I started a test print using Slic3r that has 1st layer @ 215 degrees and everything else at 185. The printer got up to 194, but after that the temp increased extremely slowly. It stopped increasing at 201/202.

So I resliced my test print to do 1st layer @ 200 and subsequent ones at 185. This time the temp got to 189/190 and stopped there. Of course the print never started.

Next I switched to the Craftware slicer and tried again with 1st layer @ 215. The printer got to 201/202 and stayed there. So I resliced again with 1st layer = 200. This time the temp stopped at 189/191.

Should I replace the thermistor? Go back to my previous firmware? Or what?

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黃俊傑
2017-11-18 03:41:09

Birk Binnard
2017-11-18 04:17:20

Ah yes, I completely forgot about the PID settings. I have done that before and I know it takes a while.

Unfortunately neither Pronterface nor Simplify3D want to connect to the printer - the connection sends back garbage characters and I get messages like "could be invalid baud rate" and "connection failed". So I'l have to fgure otu what's going on with that first.

蘇子敬
2017-11-18 06:24:02

I just delete m109 in my g-code and start printing.
And newest firmware is 2.5.

Birk Binnard
2017-11-18 06:32:43

2.5? Where does that come from? I got 2.0.7 from the Atom website. Is there a better place to find it?

And if you delete M109 how does the printer know to not print with a cold hotend?

蘇子敬
2017-11-18 06:40:55

http://www.atom3dp.com/....../2017/11/ATOM-2.5B-170116.zip

You can use this on 2.0

You just reach temperature and start printing

Birk Binnard
2017-11-18 08:08:42

Thanks for your suggestions; I have some interesting results:
1. Firmware 2.5 did not work for me. I installed it OK and took out the M109 command. When I started the print the printhead started printing about 2 inches above the print bed and the hote nd was not at the proper temperature. No filament was extruded from the hotend.
2. I added an M104 to set the temperature to 215 and then tried to run an AutoLevel (which I had run OK before with 2.0.7), but the printer made a loud buzzing sound and didn't do anything. I took this as my clue to revert to 2.0.7.
3. I reinstalled 2.0.7, performed an AutoLevel , removed the M109, and verified there was an M104 S0215. When the printer started printing no filament came out. The LCD said the temp was something like 67. I took this to mean the hotend had not yet got up to the 215 temp.
4. I restarted the printer and did a warmup to 200. When I started the print this time it did in fact start printing - which it is doing now. I'm printing a string test part and using the same slicer settings I've used in the past the print is showing much more stringing. But it is printing the layers at 185.
5. I don't understand why Arduino can talk to the printer OK, but not Pronterface or Simplify3D.
6. I thought I could use the printer LCD to set PID values by hand, but I looked in the Configuration.h file and there are no defaults there for Atom2. I didn't think it wold be wise to use values from a different printer.

Birk Binnard
2017-11-19 03:22:11

I resolved the serial port connection problem by setting S3D & Pronterface to use a baud rate of 250,000 and the Serial Port driver to a baud rate of 460,000. I have no idea why this solved the connection problem, but it did.

I ran the PID test and go t numbers KP: 17.63, Ki: 1.27, Kd: 61.25. The first 2 were fairly close to what the printer's LCD screen showed, but the last one was far different. At any rate, I stored the updates and did a preheat 200.

I was disappointed to see that the printer could not get the hotend to a temp higher than about 190. But I ran my string test print again, removing the M109 line since I knew the printer could never get to 215.

The print failed shortly after it started with what appears to be a jammed nozzle. I'm thinking the problem may be that the hotend I'm using has a heatsink just above the nozzle (it's like the original Atom 2,0 hotend assembly) and this may be preventing the heater disk from getting the hotend up to desired temperature. So I may go back to using my "newer" hotend which is similar to the current 2.5EX one.

Edit: Yup - if I stop the heatsink fan from running the hotend gets up to 200 quite quickly. Letting the fan go results in the temp goes back down to around 190. Looks like I really will go back to my previous hotend configuration.

Hugo Lopez Uria
2017-11-19 17:05:39

Hi! I have had the same issues as you with the 2.0.7 firmware. The temperature fluctuated all time, so I went back to the 2.0.6 firmware

Birk Binnard
2017-11-19 23:13:19

I am going back to 2.06 also because 2.07 does not allow negative Z-Offset values.

Birk Binnard
2017-11-20 01:44:59

2.06 working fine - no need to redo PID values.

蘇子敬
2017-11-21 15:05:25

i also have problem on heating today, i found out my heater's wire snap.


原文網址 黃小濤
2017-11-16 13:12:32

想請問各位大神,因為幫atom1.0換裝E3D頭,換完之後,在autohome後三軸會在往上走一些些發出撞擊聲,之後Zlevel就跑掉了,我可以請教問題是出在那,還是firmware要改什麼,每次按GoTo ZERO還是列印開始前都會發生

黃俊傑
2017-11-16 13:32:34

Auto leveling 過了? 那應該是高度 你改噴頭 應該會比較長

黃小濤
2017-11-16 13:35:18

有autolevel,不過好像都一樣,感覺上沒存進去,autolevel過程都沒問題


原文網址 Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 11:09:20

請問這個接頭要怎麼拆?我的熱敏電阻可能掛了(面板顯示Err: MINTEMP)想拿另一個接看看,我的機是ATOM1.99

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 11:11:39

備品是2014年ATOM寄來的熱敏電阻(因為當時還能用就先沒換)

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 11:36:23

還是MINTRMP,可能其他地方壞

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 11:37:35

壞掉當時正用面板旋扭調溫度180>200,按下去作確認後面板就變Err: MINTEMP了,前一秒還在parking位加熱中

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 19:06:02

用另一條線接備品熱敏電阻T0有溫度,看來原本的線可能也有狀況(畫面上方拔掉的那條),還好板子沒壞……QQ

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 19:11:40

好的線接舊電阻也是Err: MINTEMP看來它真的掛了...

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 19:26:16

依官網的故障排除用電表測也沒讀數 找文章想到我壞掉前也發生過印件黏在黏噴頭的堵料 清過之後還有印一下啊....仍然壞掉了Q_Q

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-07 19:51:49

請問更換熱敏電阻的官方教學只有這個嗎? 升級手冊找不到苦惱中https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldOEgHFCs0

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-08 09:54:17

發現我還是需要這影片前面拆噴頭的過程,請問1:29時他拆掉的黃色透明膠帶是什麼?我可以用貼底板的藍色膠帶代替嗎? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldOEgHFCs0

Yu Shu Huang
2017-11-08 19:49:51

再請教,我可能從圈起來的地方拆一條線去穿過噴頭再接回去嗎?電阻那端包好好的很不想破壞它 (逃避焊接


原文網址 Dan Salvador
2017-10-25 22:01:07

hello dear Atomic Friends , can anyone assist me why this happends ? 2.5EX model , i cannot find the reason

auto calibration is ok
uploaded the firmware again just to be safe ☺
runner block system 100% good
belts are good
all 3 axis are moving smoothly by hand (and feels the same)

翻譯年糕

Benjamin Kentopp
2017-10-25 22:23:56

Physics. Your printing too fast. The change in motion causes too much force on the effector. In essence you can drop Accel and speed or increase holding torque on stepper drivers

Dan Salvador
2017-10-25 22:25:11

i have 4 printers (all 2.5EX) and this only happends on this one , all the others are with same setting and do not have this issue ☺

Fabio Hasseck
2017-10-25 22:41:14

איזה הגדרות הדפסה?

黃俊傑
2017-10-25 23:24:54

make sure all the ball joint and nozzle are tight.
or try check the voltage.

Benjamin Kentopp
2017-10-25 23:35:26

As mentioned check ball joints and connection points. Have you checked motor current to see if it's the same as others?

Dan Salvador
2017-10-26 00:02:15

i will check it ☺ many thanks

蘇子敬
2017-10-26 07:32:05

Moving axis by hand too fast will damage circuit board

Dan Salvador
2017-10-27 14:49:42

I replaced all 3 drivers on the board to new, double checked all the magnet balls screws, all looks good and still this problem remains.... the movie is printing in 30mms .... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


原文網址 羅瑱陽
2017-10-10 14:13:39

求救文!!
小弟的2.5 ex 印到一半出現 mintemp
研判黃色線掛掉,請問台中有沒有廠商可以採購呢?
明天中午前要交件啊!!!
Orz

林志鎰
2017-10-10 14:15:25

有辦法接嗎?可以先接起來用

チェン 幸せな
2017-10-10 14:17:47

黃色線是熱敏電阻,如果線接回還是不行,願意來彰化的話我這邊有.

張不凡
2017-10-10 14:23:17

這組嗎?我在神岡有需要再跟我說,我有多買備用的。

羅瑱陽
2017-10-10 20:10:53

感謝大家!!表弟特地從台南帶上來神救援完成!!虛驚一場


原文網址 Dennis Chen
2017-08-06 16:11:32

這是一個簡單的批次檔。在Windows下,只要複製patch_marlin.bat到ATOM原始碼Marlin子目錄下,執行後就會把不相容的部份修正,就可以用新的Arduino編譯

楊為巽
2017-08-07 11:39:20

感謝!


原文網址 Yu-Hsuan Hung
2017-08-05 12:18:29

詢問大大Neutron的marlin修改問題
繼上次以為是auto level壞掉產生的問題,實際上是因為小弟吧噴頭換成e3d,結果噴頭太長所以才會戳到最底,這個部分想知道marlin要如何修改autolevel下降的高度呢? 詢問大大Neutron的marlin修改問題
繼上次以為是auto level壞掉產生的問題,實際上是因為小弟吧噴頭換成e3d,結果噴頭太長所以才會戳到最底,這個部分想知道marlin要如何修改autolevel下降的高度呢?

廖新弘
2017-08-05 13:28:39

改第347行 # define MANUAL_Z_HOME_POS 225//195 // For delta: Distance between nozzle and print surface after homing.中的225數值

Keisuke Lin
2017-08-08 20:04:19

Autohome之後用1mm把Z軸慢慢降下來,快碰到玻璃時換成0.1mm的,慢慢降到碰到玻璃,然後看面板Z高度剩下多少,從marline裡面扣掉

童化金
2017-09-08 00:43:23

借問你有遇到level bed後,再使用auto home會撞噴頭的問題嗎?
但重開機不先使用level bed後,直接使用auto home沒問題


原文網址 楊為巽
2017-08-05 11:31:26

firmware update的問題…錯誤訊息在struct fpos_t?

ChihJun Soong
2017-08-05 12:03:20

這是IDE 新舊版問題 , 換成舊版arduino ide , 或是將fpos_t 改成fpost

Dennis Chen
2017-08-05 12:22:31

因為新的Arduino 也定義了 fpos_t,Marlin也有定義自己的 fpos_t造成重覆定義,直接 search & replace all "fpos_t" 改成其他名稱就行了,基本上也只要改兩個檔案就行了: SdBaseFile.cpp, SdBaseFile.h
$ grep -n fpos_t *.{cpp,h}
SdBaseFile.cpp:297:void SdBaseFile::getpos(__fpos_t* pos) {
SdBaseFile.cpp:928: __fpos_t pos;
SdBaseFile.cpp:1495:void SdBaseFile::setpos(__fpos_t* pos) {
SdBaseFile.h:34: * \struct __fpos_t
SdBaseFile.h:38:struct __fpos_t {
SdBaseFile.h:43: __fpos_t() : position(0), cluster(0) {}
SdBaseFile.h:208: void getpos(__fpos_t* pos);
SdBaseFile.h:212: void setpos(__fpos_t* pos);

楊為巽
2017-08-05 22:44:18

這:太難了…


原文網址 Linards von Voss
2017-07-19 21:21:33

Does anyone have firmware for ramps 1.4/Mega 2560 combo, working and compilable (or hex file) for neutron delta? It seems that available version on web page isn't working, or it is just me that can't compile and upload it, and im having errors.

Help?!

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原文網址 簡晉佑
2017-07-01 08:36:20

是否有人嘗試在 Neutron 加上熱床,目前接線接好,但是下熱床加熱的指令後,D8 的輸出電壓卻是 0,不知道問題在哪裡,是否有接錯,Marlin 有需要修改的嗎?例如噴頭數量要改成 1 之類的?

Charlie Ting
2017-07-01 08:40:31

韌體有啟用?

廖新弘
2017-07-01 09:19:36

基座是PLA嗎,隔熱要做好,不然會軟掉

Estima Lin
2017-07-01 09:43:43

另一組電源輸入端也要接電...

簡晉佑
2017-07-01 10:04:19

是用 PLA,目前是墊高大約 10mm,之後打算再加上木板隔熱

簡晉佑
2017-07-01 10:09:02

太感謝了,原來熱床的供電是不一樣的,難怪一直覺得這樣供電會不夠

簡晉佑
2017-07-01 10:10:08

沒有,以為是不是韌體的問題,但是設定都完全沒看到,所以問題在供電兩邊都要接上

Josh Lin
2017-07-02 00:44:57

D8 和 + 這組的 2端 直接 接 熱床 即可!不必 透過 繼電器 接熱床!

因 D8 (接自 Q3 的 Drain 極 )是 依 熱床上 的 熱敏電阻 所得的 溫度狀況 來控制 Q3 (大電流 的 Power MOS) 以 PWM 接 GND 輸出,如再 經 繼電器 可能 繼電器 的 機械動作 會 反應不過來!熱床 溫度 可能會 不穩~~

另 D8 這組的 +12V 是 專線 來自 另一組 電源輸入端 經由 專用的 10A 的 PTC 熱敏 保護電阻 (又稱 無熔絲 保險絲) 專供 熱床 電源用!

專線 又有 10A 無熔絲 保險絲 保護 再加 大電流 的 Power MOS,故不需 另接 繼電器~~

簡晉佑
2017-07-02 09:41:37

感謝 不曉得D8 還有另外的保護措施 才想接繼電器比較安全,結果機械式運作時會頻繁切換 (因為PWM輸出?)反而造成輸出不穩

Josh Lin
2017-07-02 13:43:17

PWM 的 切換速度 遠快於 繼電器 的 On / Off 機械反應 速度~~

如 熱床 消耗電流 大於 11~15A (PTC 熱敏 保護電阻 超過 22A 會作動) 、工作電壓 超過 16V 或 有需要 外掛 時,可使用 固態繼電器 (SSR) 代替 內建的 Power MOS,接法 就 直接 將 D8 和 + 這組的 2端 接到 SSR 輸入端,+ 接 SSR 輸入端 的 + / D8 接 SSR 輸入端 的 - 即可~~

另,接 SSR 時 因輸入端 吃電 僅 20mA 左右,故 線可用 細線 就可~~


 

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