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原文網址 Joschka Friedl 2015-12-15 02:19:00
Finally got my heating Plate yay Buuut... Nozzle is still a little Bit clogged. Cleaned it with an E-string from my guitar. How do You guys clean your nozzles? :S Thanks in advance :)
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-15 02:24:56
Something to add: He prints fine so far but on retracts The extruder makes Noise on pushing filament back in movements...
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 09:01:37
I use acetone, bought from the hardware store coz it is stronger than the one for nail polish remover. I dilute the nozzle to melt out all any residue from filaments for 12hrs. Because I don't have guitar strings, I use a needle to clean the hole too, then back to acetone bath.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-15 09:49:52
But i thought acetone only works for ABS? PLA seemed pretty resistant to acetone...
Birk Binnard 2015-12-15 16:43:26
You can get 0.4mm drill bits. they are tiny - but they do work. To avoid breaking them I always preheat hot end to 200 degrees first.
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 20:07:05
Yes your correct on abs. But on PLA with concentrated acetone, and leaving it for at least 12hrs or so will start to break down any plastic inside the nozzle. It will clean the side wall of the nozzle and then you can use needle to push out any stuff easily onto the hole.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-15 20:14:30
Ohh thats good to know!!! Just ordered some THF which dissolves PLA :DJust one More Thing for either Acetone or THF: Do I have to disassemble The thermistor from The hotend for This act? :/
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 20:19:47
It would be great to seperate them. I only dilute the metal parts.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-15 20:31:59
I was hoping that you wouldn't say that :D So I'll have to cut open the shrinking tube, desolder the thermistor, pull it out, clean the nozzle (hope the teflone tube doesn't react on acetone / THF) and then put the thermistor back in, put shrinking tub e on, solder the thermistor again and shrink the tube on it. Right? Another question: The teflon tube in the hotend nozzle part - is it replaceable? In my case it's stuck in there pretty hard. Not that I need to replace it right now, but I was wondering :)
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 20:36:24
The Teflon tube, yes I believe so. When I ordered my Atom, I made sure that I also ordered 2 more nozzle with out the tube. And if your gonna cut the wire, might as well use a connector so it will be easily to remove the resistor again for future cleaning.
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 20:39:05
By heating the nozzle, it should easily remove tube after.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-15 20:41:42
Yeah... Should have ordered some nozzles too :/ What kind of connector do you use for the thermistor wire?
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 20:51:51
Solder first the tip
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-15 20:52:38
And you may use one of these, but I use the pin. Male and female.
原文網址 Joschka Friedl 2015-12-06 23:25:48
And here's another question :D
Is there any place you can order spare parts for the atom? Like the complete hotend or just parts of it? Reason why I ask: While disassembling and reassembling the Hotend for cleaning, I heard a cracking noise with the effect that the Hotend won't heat anymore. After a complete disassembly the ceramic heating plate fell apart :( So, I need a new one. I doubt I can fix that one with glue :D And of course all technical details to that specific plate would be good (wattage, volt etc etc)
Birk Binnard 2015-12-06 23:42:50
I have seen ceramic heaters online that look like the one in Atom2's hot end. Try Googling things like "3D printer ceramic heater" and you should be able to find them.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-07 00:17:24
I just find them on Alibaba for 0.1 - 2$ per piece with 15-35 delivery days.. Was hoping for any shop in Europe so I can print again within the next week... ._.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-07 01:54:36
ANyone knows the delivery Time from the official atom3dp site? Will it arrive in europe before christmas? :D
Clarence Lee 2015-12-07 12:47:28
How about asking the ATOM official contact window for order the spare parts?
Dan Salvador 2015-12-07 13:09:07
I had the same problem and I simply ordered it from atom directly- their service is very good
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-07 15:57:54
Thanks for your answers guys :)Question is still: What is delivery time from official Atom page to europe? :o
原文網址 Joschka Friedl 2015-12-05 10:09:02
Hey there guys Today I changed my filament for a print for a friend. He wanted a transluscent filament, no prob so far. Heating hotend, unload filament, putting new filament on The holder, through bowden and said "load filament" He loaded it, spit some if it out of The nozzle, no prob so far. Started my print... And the extruder stepper made some noise, the pulley to be exact. After a look I saw that he couldn't push the Filament more. He had no grip. After a good clean - same Problem. Changed to old filament - same Problem. He just doesnt want to Transport it. After a retract, he gets grip again until it happens again on random Position. Any idea here?
Another thing: I habe a Problem with the nozzle scratching my glass bed. But only on a part slightly left of The center, maybe 1cm in y axis and 0.5cm on x axis. Every other spot, eben further more left, doesnt scratch... Auto leveling etc. Die nothing :(
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Charlie Ting 2015-12-05 10:34:04
Take some photos will helps us to understand your problem. Each filament has different characters to use it properly,you may change your machine settings slightly. But you didn't provide any information about these details.
Joe Abaquin Bing Aquino 2015-12-05 12:32:07
Nozzle could be clog. Learned my lesson. I made sure my nozzle is in 210deg. to bleed out any remained filament & then push it with a new filament, let it keep run till it fully change to a new filament. Or if that doesn't work, you may need to dis-assemble nozzle to clean it out.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-05 17:35:43
Oh forgot to mention. I disassembled the hotend - it was totally clean. About photos: Didnt know what to take photo of. Everything except of The print >looks< fine, its just the sound. I try making a vid later this dayI printed last Filament at 195 degree with 30mm/s. Changed nothing on The New one...
原文網址 Joschka Friedl 2015-12-01 19:22:22
Hello there! :)
I have a question to all of our Atom 2.0 users out there. When pre-heating your printer, doesn't matter if directly printing or using prepare => Preheat 200°, does your hotend start to ooze as well? Around 140~160° my printer starts to make a spaghetti of my filament although the extruder-motor doesn't push filament through.
Wouldn't budge me if it wasn't for the fact that the printer drops that spaghetti on the plate and rubs and scratches above it while printing first layer.
When I wipe it away, it keeps dripping on, after 2 minutes it stops. But if I start printing then, it needs more than 6 brim layers to start printing. And of course if I stop wiping it away when he goes down to start a print, he spreads the blob on the plate, resulting in scratching the thing or even the whole brim away. :(
Does anyone of you have the same issue? Or is it just me? Always wiping away gets a little bit on my nerves.
Another issue: This morning I started a larger print which was around 15 x 18 cm on plate. The longer one was on the Y axis. I had the printer do the auto-level when I turned it on and adjusted my Z offset because I made new kapton tape on the plate. The printer made the middle part, Left and right on X axis and started the front part on Y axis. No probs so far. But when he went to the back on the Y axis (so in front of the tower on the opposite site of the printer) he scratched my Kapton away :( Any ideas on that one? Happened two times, stopped the print, did auto level again etc, same prob.
Thanks in advance guys ^^
黃俊傑 2015-12-01 20:31:05
for first problem. it's normally.just like asshole if without the muscle all shit will coming out... so that's why when u preheat.
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-01 20:32:35
Okay.. Other guys i know having a 3D printer told me theirs don't ooze. But nice comparison ?
黃俊傑 2015-12-01 21:50:16
for second problem. i think it's z-lift problem. maybe this topic will be useful... http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?340,434979
Joschka Friedl 2015-12-01 22:53:40
Had that problem last time. It ripped my prints off because of curling. Reducing print speed to 75% solved that one. Z-Hop is fine on my printer. All in all it seems that something with the delta-geometry or the auto leveling goes wrong, because in the Middle, X Axis (Left-Right) and in the Front Y Axis, it prints fine and clean. Only on Y Axis Back (Front of C/Z Tower) he scratches the Tape and the Print bed. :/
Marge de Manoeuvre 2015-12-03 11:35:34
same problem as you in fact, when printing near the z axis column (the one with the step motor for the filament ) something is wrong and the head scratch my bed too, what could we do ?
原文網址 Joschka Friedl 2015-11-30 05:29:51
Hey there, it's me, bequi!
I printed the bequi jointed Figurine from thingiverse, settings as stated in the description of the thing. I'm very happy with the outcome after all the trouble I had with my printer :)
Stanley Chen 2015-12-04 10:37:37
looks great! You have a nice printer!
原文網址 Joschka Friedl 2015-11-13 18:33:22
Hey there guys,
I'm new to 3D printing and own an Atom 2.0 for four weeks now. Pretty happy with the outcome, first printing results looked good, gone through some problems... And now I have a few questions, hoping for solutions in here.
I set up Cura for my printer yesterday, having much better printing results. Only problem is: My Hotend scratches the print while moving from part to part, but it is not scratching the Print Bed.. I set the Z-Offset in the G-code to Z+0.5, although I couldn't measure it correctly because sending the Effector to X0 Y0 Z0 results in the effector being around 1mm away from printing bed. In front of the X-Tower, on Z0.6 it scratches the paper.
Hope to get some help on this one :) Thanks in advance and greetings from Germany!
Clarence Lee 2015-11-13 18:51:42
http://atom3dp.squarespace.com/firstlayer-1/
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-13 20:13:23
Yeah, already checked that one... My first layer is perfect (which wonders me because i have that Gap in the Center when manually lowering the effector via command) but then scratches on the printed layers...
Birk Binnard 2015-11-14 01:13:53
I had a somewhat similar problem when trying to print an Eiffel Tower model. What was happening to me was the adjusting screw on the bottom of the hot end was hitting one of the legs when the printer moved from one leg to another. I took a rather dras tic approach to fix this, but it has worked perfectly and I have never had to readjust the screw since then. What I did was to simply cut about 3 mm off the end of the screw and then readjust the setting as described in Clarence's post above. What this did was raise the bottom level of the screw head slightly above the bottom of of the hot end, thus completely eliminating any interference between the hot end assembly and the part being printed.
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-14 02:34:53
Although this is a good idea, my screw is a level above the hotend. It can't scratch anything...Thing is - with kisslicer i had no scratching problems but worse print result (stringing etc.) while cura provides perfect print results with print scratching via hotend :(
蘇子敬 2015-11-14 07:41:59
Can you post some photos?
Birk Binnard 2015-11-14 07:59:57
TZ - can who take photos of what?
蘇子敬 2015-11-14 08:10:33
I mean he can take some photos at the print, sometimes I have this problem too. The print's section is rough, and I can hear printing head scratching the print.
Clarence Lee 2015-11-14 09:00:18
Did you check the z lift setting in cura?
James Lin 2015-11-14 09:07:34
請問他是說列印玻璃面歪斜的問題嗎? 若是的話我也正面臨中間正,但左上方較高的狀況,印大面積物件會有問題 ~ (Google translate ,Sorry -_- ") Does he mean to printer's glass surface skew problem? If so my printer the middle positive is perfect, but top left is higher, there will be problems printing large objects -
蘇子敬 2015-11-14 09:09:06
他的問題是噴頭會刮列印品卻不會刮平台
James Lin 2015-11-14 09:12:17
蘇子敬 原來是這樣, 看來應該照張噴頭照來看看~ Need take some nozzle photos
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-14 10:20:48
Z-Hop or Z-Lift on Retraction is on 0.15, like it is advised in the Cura Settings from Atom Webpage. I played around with this one, even played with the Z-Offset in G-Code - with no results. I found the "Retract while Combing" Plugin in the web for Cura, but with this one, I get more stringing :/
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-14 10:22:39
I can make some pictures of a print tomorrow! :) On most "scratches" you can see the nozzle taking or even scrubbing away a little bit of the print. While this doesn't make any difference in Infill sections of sturdy objects, it ruins my whole print when I print figures.
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-14 10:25:17
I love the translation option here. Translator says: "His problem is Spray head shave his print does not shave platform" - kind of hilarious :D Problem is in short terms: Hot-End does >NOT< touch / scratch my printbed. BUT Hot-End DOES touch / scratch my printed part while changing position being in retraction "mode". This results in tearing figures apart or other problems.
Clarence Lee 2015-11-14 10:55:54
z-hop & z offset are no any relations, increase your z-hop & check your retraction speed
蘇子敬 2015-11-14 14:26:00
Sometime if I print too fast, the section will become very rough, then hot-end will scratch the print. So I suggest you can print slowly.
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-14 18:46:09
Printing at recommended 30mm/s, z-hop was tested up to 0.35 (which seems to have been a little Bit better but also resulted in fine stringing) Retraction speed is somewhat between 70 & 100 Btw thanks vor your super and fast support guys ?
Charlie Ting 2015-11-14 19:23:38
Setting z-lift will solve this problem.
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-14 22:45:17
Thanks charlie. But as stated, this results in fine stringing. :/ had that Problem in kisslicer and couldn't find a solution..
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-18 09:25:30
Okay, tested some things again with nearly zero results... I think it doesn't depend on z-lift because it seems to scratch my prints when moving without retraction. Rising z-lift results in stringing but doesn't solve the Problem. Standard cura settin g was 0.15mm i think, this works fine in case of stringing (nearly zero strings) Thing is: He doesnt scratch on every move, so i think it has something to so with calibrations, to be exact z-leveling. My z-offset works best on 4,5-5mm, it doesn't scratch my printbed and a sheet of paper fits fine. If I activate "retraction on every move" I can't leave my printer alone because at any time the filament could get stuck in The print head resulting in The printer moving on without extruding filament... I'm really desperate now... 3 more things - 1. the printer starts Scratching on The First layer but never scratches on last layer. 2. Printed some bridges today with 190 degree celsius resulting in The First bridge layer hanging a little Bit. Any ideas here? 3. Measuring a 10x10mm cube results in 10.12 x 10.15 prints... I'm unsure what to do now. Changing the value mentioned in The manual results in The Printer trying to auto-calibrate outside the printbed... :/ I'm happy about every hint and help ^^
Clarence Lee 2015-11-18 09:40:04
What are your rectract speed and length? Did you enable the cooling fan? Check https://atom3dp.squarespace.com/new-index-eng
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-18 09:53:11
Those values are from the atom webpage, the cura settings file. 10mm retract at 100 speed it was. And cooling fans start after first layer with full speed at 3mm height
Roy Lo 2015-11-18 11:08:36
Did you try the z-lift plugin of Cura? http://wiki.ultimaker.com/CuraPlugin:_zLift
Clarence Lee 2015-11-18 11:42:29
Reduce retract length to 5 for a start point
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-18 16:48:49
Hey Roy, thanks for that guess. Only question: As my printer scratches the print on movements without extruding, but not retracting and z-lifting, should I also disable the retraction limitation (think its the one which says that it should only retract on movements which are longer than XXmm in distance)? I was wondering this morning... as my printer has 0.XX Distance Z-Offset to the printbed while printing first layer, it seems like he has nearly zero distance to the following layers. Increasing Z-Offsets results in a very bad first layer.. So it seems like I need a plugin (or a hint) where to find the option that he "keeps" the Z-Offset from the start.. :/ Tried printing some parts yesterday and of course the nozzle broke them off the printbed after 3 hours of printing because of that scratching. :( Interesting thing btw: My printer only oozes in sleep-mode when a layer is printed shorter than 10 secs or so. I always thought this is normal.
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-18 17:48:47
Will test that one this evening, hoping that it doesn't result in stringing.
Roy Lo 2015-11-18 18:26:41
Maybe you can find solution here, https://ultimaker.com/....../16054-ultimaker-2-nozzle......
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-18 19:17:04
yup, found that one too. Thing is: You cant see the scratches in the bottom layer from the outside. Only from inside. Downloaded that plugin and tested it - resulting in Stringing :( I'd have to make some more tests with that plugin to finally say if i t helps or not. For me, after a long and furious search, it seems like the distance of the nozzle reduces within the bottom layer, as it doesn't scratch the printbed, but afterwards scratches the print itself.. Also found one hint on "convex" and "concav" printbeds - in theory. I wouldn't say that the printbed is "convex" for the printer, if this was the case, it would also scratch the printbed, wouldn't it? Thank you all again for your support guys :)
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 03:09:27
You can try the new firmware, https://atom3dp.squarespace.com/firstlayer-1-1/
Birk Binnard 2015-11-19 03:39:56
What is the release date for this firmware? Is it OK to use for all Atom2's? Are there any changes to the source code needed before downloading to Atom2 motherboard?
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 05:15:10
Release Date is today. Wow, hoping for some super results from that one :) To the "Changes to the source code" - I've seen just now that in the configuration.h the DELTA_DIAGONAL_ROD Value is modified # define DELTA_DIAGONAL_ROD (226.91 * (50.345 / 50. 0)) Testing new Firmware right now. The Z-Offset function is neat! Nice Job Atom team. Although.. It doesnt solve my problem whilst it brings me to a new point: Tryed printing a part via Repetierhost and via Kisslicer. Can you guess it? No scratching of the print! Gnah! So it definitely is something in the Cura settings! Thing is.. Cura delivers the best print results.. :/
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 06:18:43
Ahh.. Finally got to make a vid where you can hear the scratch really good.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdIpY3u570M&feature=youtu.be The Cura Settings can be found in the description!
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 07:01:21
I think it's still too fast. Do you ever use the radial button to slow down for comparison?
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 07:11:39
Yep. Slowed it down to 80 and 70%... Still scratching. And its "only" 30mm/s? Thought this already is pretty slow? :o Doin some test prints on the flow right now which seems to has some effect... Printin three cubes with Flow Rates from 95 to 100. Somewhere between this should be a good option... Hopefully.
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 07:14:24
The video you post is not like 30mm
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 07:19:26
Huh.. Well in Cura I sliced it with 30mm/s, as it is a 10x10x10mm cube, I think it just looks like its faster? But of course I could try slower.
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 07:22:43
I remember the voltage will change motor's speed. "Measuring And Adjusting Voltage of A DRV8825 Chip" https://atom3dp.squarespace.com/mechanical-problems-1/
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 07:42:12
Input: 230V - Output: 12V So the Printer gets the normal 12V - should be the same as yours? What wonders me - kisslicer and Repetier didn't have those scratching problems. How come that cura has them?
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 07:59:14
okay will check this one tomorrow, get the better device from work. But sadly this doesnt solve my cura-scratching problem :'(
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 09:04:48
Whew. With my new trick I get to print the part at least. Had to print some think brims with cubes around it so it stacks to bed besides the scratching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v5mMXwrEKo&feature=youtu.be Here is another Video, 50% Speed, at t he end you hear loud scratchings.. :( http://img4web.com/i/EPXSJT.jpg And this is the picture of the four fails. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:555242 its the Arm from this little robot friend. Thought it'd be one of the hardest part so print it first before you have to trash the rest because the arms wont work :D
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 12:08:37
oh, that is travel noise. try to change travel speed from 150 to 30
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 16:03:47
So... If I change travel speed from 150 to 30 it should disappear? Just woke up. Can test it this evening (and now i cant wait to test it XD)
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 17:08:51
I always use same speed (print,travel,bottom,top,infill...) To prevent sudden movement
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-19 18:00:15
Okay I really hope this will solve my problem *-* I will report this evening :)
李穆 2015-11-19 19:40:56
Get into LCD menu : Control---->Motion---->Accel.---->500
蘇子敬 2015-11-19 22:13:42
my atom 2.0's Accel is 9000!
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-20 01:34:29
Okay, reduced Print Speed to 30mm/s. Buuut this results in stringing, although scratching is HEAVY reduced. Thanks for that one! Should I set retraction back to 10mm on 100mm/s?
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-20 05:54:22
Have to add - dunno if it was like this before - sometimes I hear a cracking sound, sounding like PLA cracking. I cannot localize it whether it comes from the print getting lose of the bed - or just some of the build cracks because of the long print, a nd the temperature (heating & cooling cycle). Any idea here? Printing Fillenium Malcon from Thingiverse right now at 0.6 scale. Will post a picture when its done in 2 hours. Where we come to next question. ~20 hours of printing for a 0.1mm model with 18cm height is normal, right? Edit: Okay. Maybe he's just moving through the strings he produces and they crack because of the force. Only one possibility. Although I'm pretty scared of the print getting ripped of the print bed ;_;
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-20 09:38:43
Sooo got it right here. Still on Printer: http://img4web.com/i/PP233.jpg Huge Stringing between the last layers, sadly. Also the satellite, the feet and the cockpit had MUCH stringing - With 150mm/s Travel Speed I had nearly none. But - good thing - no ripping off, nearly zero "scratching" or anything else. :) Following pictures were made >after< I cut off most of the strings. Detailed Satellite: http://img4web.com/i/GPJPED.jpg Detailed Cockpit: http://img4web.com/i/VDHT8A.jpg Standing Feet: http://img4web.com/i/EZYNF.jpg Again Standing Feet: http://img4web.com/i/4UMFHL.jpg The ship is around 11,5cm tall, Print finished after 6:37h. Cura told me something about "10 hours". But this is kind off the normal speed, right? With 0.1mm layer height of course. Thanks for everything guys! You're awesome!
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-21 06:23:51
Today someone told me the printer should get a "much better print for that amount of money it costs" Had me a little Bit worried. What do You guys think?Also: Die anyone of You calibrated the tower home offsets?
蘇子敬 2015-11-21 07:39:37
Did he show you the real case for comparison? Or he just tell you by "feeling"?
Joschka Friedl 2015-11-21 11:16:00
He told me from what he knows of 3D printing. ^^" I Think one of the things I have to learn more about is slicing and the right options configured for the printer. The printer itselfs seems pretty.. stable at this moment.
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