I haven’t done many prints and my FEP is now damaged and I don’t know what the cause is or how I can prevent it when I change it later does anyone know if it’s a mechanical fault or slicing error ?
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Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:18:04
It doesn't look damaged. Just dirty of cured resin
Geren W Mortensen Jr
2020-03-18 07:18:28
I accidentally damaged mine when removing a failed print that was stuck to the FEP. I didn't poke a hole through it, so I'm still using it. It's not affecting prints much.
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:18:36
Use the plastic spatula to gently remove it
Richard Hale
2020-03-18 07:18:51
You sure it’s not dried resin
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:19:18
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:19:55
Lorenzo Di Sante
it is a bit damaged it’s all bumpy/crinkly (like it’s been heat up) (not saying it is)
Geren W Mortensen Jr
2020-03-18 07:20:36
Right. The only effect it has, in my case, is a very slight deformation on flat surfaces that are parallel to the FEP.
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:21:07
Matthew Street
are you sure you removed all the stuck resin? Doesn't seem from images
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:22:01
Richard Hale
yeah I’ve clean out the tank and tried getting it off it’s not coming off and it’s like the Feps melted
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:22:35
Geren W Mortensen Jr
exactly, if you're printing 100% flat surfaces you need a 100% clean fep. But after few hours printing the fep deforms by itself. Luckily I basically never print flat stuff and when I do I can sand a little the surface
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:23:03
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:23:47
Matthew Street
I'm pretty sure fep can't melt easily
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if you didn't heat it it's impossible
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:24:30
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:24:31
Geren W Mortensen Jr
2020-03-18 07:25:09
The one flat item I print regularly is a lid for an electronic project box for a product I sell. I've found that, even with the wrinkle in the FEP, the "finish" side, which I print right on the build plate, is perfectly smooth. The wrinkle appears, very slightly, on the back.
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:25:38
Lorenzo Di Sante
yeah I used alcohol but sorry maybe didn’t word it right I meant it’s like it’s been melted
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Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:26:00
Matthew Street
okay it's like melted. You're right. This is very weird
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:26:29
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:26:51
Matthew
did you changed it recently? You sure the tension was good?
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:27:20
Maybe it was too tensioned and it went into breaking point
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:27:57
Lorenzo Di Sante
Nah I haven’t changed it I’ve had it ( the print for about a month) I haven’t done many prints still new to it trying to figure it out (I have had a bunch of failed prints
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:28:55
Matthew Street
and when this thing happened was after a failed printing?
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:29:55
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:30:51
Lorenzo Di Sante
I tried a print it failed (got annoyed) left it a few days (resin still in tank) cleaned out the failed print and started a new one
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:32:17
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:34:34
Lorenzo Di Sante
after I started the new one it finished after a few hours seen that a few things succeeded (multiple objects on print bed) I decided to completely empty my tank and clean it out then I noticed it
Scott Pavlich
2020-03-18 07:35:30
Well there’s no “slicing error” that can damage your fep, so most times failed bits or print, or poor removal of failed prints will result in damage
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:35:43
Matthew Street
do you preheat your resin with heatgun or other similar water?
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:37:34
Scott Pavlich
I count be that (poor removal I might of used to much force)
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:37:59
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:39:08
Matthew Street
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maybe you didn't completely clean your vat when the print failed and when you stared a new one some hardened resin damaged your fep under pressure. Now you can only change it though
Wayne Mitchell
2020-03-18 07:39:38
I had the same thing happen after about three weeks of printing.
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:40:31
Lorenzo Di Sante
yeah that could be it (sounds logical) but Scott also makes a good point I may if used to much force when trying to clean it off
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:41:44
Well I’ve just ordered some more FEP sheets I’ll use the other side for now (it’s only on side) and I’ll use that sheet for practicing my prints
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:42:32
Matthew Street
i hope it doesn't give you a hole! Tape the edges of your screen with kapton tape
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:42:50
Like I did here
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:43:42
Lorenzo Di Sante
thank you so much for you ideas and suggestions (so do I need to do a full clean out if a print fails then (or is there a better or easier way to get the failed bits out ?
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:44:51
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:45:14
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:45:35
Matthew Street
you've to filter your resin back in the bottle, pour some alcohol in the vat after some minutes you can peel of the failed layers with the plastic spatula, then dry with a towel and you can pour back the resin
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:46:06
Matthew Street
exactly. So I'm always sure it won't go inside the screen and onto the UV lamps
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 07:46:13
Lorenzo Di Sante
2020-03-18 07:47:51
Scott Pavlich
2020-03-18 07:53:13
Matthew Street
Place a piece of tape on the underside of the vat as well, right on the fep....done it a few times to prevent catastrophe
Robert James
2020-03-18 15:33:27
You cant damage only one side of the fep. It's so thin any damage to one side will damage the other. It's like saying you only have a hole on one side of a piece of paper.
Can you describe the actual damage, it's hard to make out from the pic. It almost looks like there is protective film that had lifted from the fep.
Matthew Street
2020-03-18 20:06:46
Robert James
yeah true and I understand the pictures ain’t the best but I’m not fully sure how to explain it the only way I can think about it is if you got a thin piece of plastic that had been melted (way you used a heat gun on a plastic bottle)
Dean Guinn
2020-03-19 07:07:06
looks like cured resin on the fep to me.
James Forder
2020-03-19 15:22:34
Warm the fep with a hair drier and the majority of the damage should dissapear
Matthew Street
2020-03-19 15:50:52