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Honestly I'm just using it with default settings and they've come out great for me

It's weird as I couldnt get anything out of anycubic black, but everything else works fine. 9 hours into a print using eryone clear, on 60, 8, 1 sec and 3 bottom layers and all looks good.

Ha, LOL, how many people told you so, welcome to the world of misinformation :)

Do you have a ventilator to use them on yourself? This is like printing a key without a car otherwise

The problem is that hospitals can’t take items from unapproved outside sources because they are not sterile, and they do not know where they have been or where they have come from.

Of course hospitals won’t use them. Who is to say their machines even use this part. It's probably for one brand of ventilator in Italy.

Don’t most of our resins contain BPA?

Pretty sure I’d risk the BPA exposure if I needed a ventilator.

Pretty sure the hospital's liability insurance policy wouldn't. You living and suffering long term health issues as a result of them using it is more expensive than letting you die because they don't have the part. :)

John Aldred I work in a hospital. They won’t touch some weird 3D printed part with a 10 foot pole unless this gets real ugly. If it does the balance between the Hippocratic oath physicians take and what you’re describing will be interesting to watch. I’m sure solutions other than Jo Schmo and his printer would present themselves.

"the balance between the Hippocratic oath physicians take and what you’re describing will be interesting to watch"

Indeed it will. :)

Better safe than sorry! ?

Don't ya just hook them up to that dusty old air compressor you have in the shed. She'll be right mate! ?

Don’t be a prat the supplies hospitals are using to do the job are better that a non sterile printed part

Did this really need to be posted in 3 groups???

I think everyone with half a brain knew this. Good intentions though

Save it for the zombie apocalypse

are you going to breathe through the biotoxic plastic that is printed in lol

Geoffrey Robert Johnston I don't work in a hospital but I recognize well enough that the parts they get are highly regulated and the system isn't conducive to 'makers' walking in with cardboard boxes full of printed parts. I agree, it's going to have to be an awful situation where their only possible options for saving lives is using these sort of homebrew pieces. And even then, I expect they'll only consider the most well documented and highly spec'd of those available.

No chance i would use one of these made out of resin.
Would definetly print on my fdm though. Already have done a respirator.

Geoffrey Robert Johnston "unless this gets real ugly."

Problem is that if something goes wrong, the hospital is liable and will get their ass sued off.

Tesla will start producing enough for the whole world soon

One of the reasons companies can justify costs for this sort of product is because of the research and the rigorous testing of it to make sure it complies with a number of safety standards, you can't do that from home!

Although it's pretty shit that we can't all lend a hand as much as we would love to in this situation, it's heartening to see people actually want to make a difference.

This originated from multiple posts about prototyping pieces/ adapters for ventilators. We have about 5000 in the uk apparently. That number will soon be overwhelmed by the number of patients that need them. The material specs have not yet been release d that will be needed for hospital use. As soon as they are they will be publicised widely. Meanwhile try to think and find out what parts they are running short of close to you and post on this group https://www.facebook.com/groups/885372275225315/?ref=share

this is fun! so many negative people...never happy, all knowing.. dont read the post jus look at pictures...lol.. i hope you never need one... and my son in law is a doctor and said if i want to use it and there are no others yeah i can... resin would be least of my problems...he added that most cases could get by with a Cpap...

Louis Siciliano even worse

Oh. How so? Resin continues to gas off after printing unless sealed properly. Fdm materials dont. Neither are perfect.

Thomassen Ølf but $11,000 seriously? Thats just ridiculous. They could be made a out of pure platinum and still not cost that much to make

Its absolutely ridiculous but until other companies go through the same processes to have a functioning and legal product there is no competition, it's fucking disgraceful really.

While i think some patenting is good it seriously slows down the progress of mankind. Like for example the technology for most 3d printing processes have been around since the 80s and is just now only beginning to really take off because the patents started to expire.

Right now We would probably be 100% a green world running off clean energy and unbelievable technologies and have colonies on other planets. ?

Totally agree man, it is highlighted how slow progress is at times like this, I love open source culture and collaboration but you'll always need regulation, hope you stay safe with all this going on dude.

Fred Breton will the people receiving these models get free super charging? Sorry, had too!

Can these things be sterilised by a third party after printing?

Can someone explain in easy foem what is this valve for

Henry Jackson depending on the process

But it still needs to be printed in an FDA approved material.

They won’t let you put it in their machine.

Clifford Schwankner I agree it would be a life and death matter ... I’d choose LIFE!

John Swapp and it's even worse in the medical field, because it's a captive market. Oh, you need this epi pen or you die? $2,500. Oh, you need this ventilator part or you die? $11,000. You need these pills or you die? $60,000 over the next 5 years. They can't have competition because medical discoveries are patented for 7 years, so they are literally the only supplier.

You will never get that choice though.

Louis Siciliano fdm harbors bacteria like no other too, so enjoy the MRSA with your Corona.

No because the regulations require it to be manufactured in a certain way. You can do some fancy after effect and skirt the laws in place for making it.

From what I've seen is that they connect the oxygen hose to the mask that are used in hospitals. There's a lot of information on the internet if you google it.

Fred Breton Tesla is a polished turd. They’ll probably charge double what the fake news was saying those respirators were 11k

I deliver to one of the busiest hospitals In Dayton Ohio, on my route. I can assure you Medline is sending out a SHIT TON of supplies and ppe to Dr's Offices etc. I spend almost 2 hours inside delivering everyday. Then of the 80 stops I usually have le ft 30 are Dr's offices up and down main street, they are ALL getting gloves, masks, and shit paper. Only one I am concerned about is the motel 6 guy....has less than 10 tenants a week in that shit hole but just ordered 20 cases of 96 rolls of toilet paper each. I assume so he can sell them for $1 per roll like people are doing around here. Team player right there.

What are those... sex toys

You'll use it on yourself? Unless you have your own respirator and hospital, then, no, you won't.

Stop it.

Only if printed using ECO resin?

Louis Siciliano FDM is like a sponge under a microscope. The perfect place for bacteria and fungi to grow. It’d be better to just try and “walk it off” then use FDM ?

Blocked for 30 days.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/....../university-of-east......

Possibly they said they can't use them because this isn't compatible with their machines? Or isn't the limiting piece for their hospital?

While I’m not going to go to far down the rabbit hole. I will again ask for information on toxicities, temperatures resins are stable at, and possible chemicals to clean these with, or seal these with to make them even slightly safer. Toxicity is a ver y important as we don’t want to further perturb the airway, but with the alternative being is no supplemental oxygen being delivered to the patient... Also, this may be less of a concern because will able to place in line filters down the tube from the split if these are still available (no projected shortage as the filter is a common use item).

While I don’t know any medical personally that needs to use these currently, we are still unsure of ultimate need, supply chain disruption, rolling shortages, etc. and there is still scant information on ramp up at this time. Therefore we are trying to think outside the box and research before we need this kind of item. An example, if we can split the 250 vents in my STATE, we start to close in on projected peak need of 780 for ventilators at 20% penetrance of the virus into the population. Many options are on the table and some creative solutions already been disseminated within the community. Example below this is actual medical salvage PPE deployed in a US hot area due to supply shortage, which may continue to be used as we in medical have quickly learned the difference between N95 and P100 filter. Also, we are also seeing use of P100 (magenta filter) construction respirators when we can find them thanks to panic buying, but again worry about supply chain.

Micah Vestal F. U.

Charming.

its hard to google for something that youdont know the name of )

Giga Bowser? That you?

Nice!!

Got a hammer?

I'll take that as there is no simple way to remove a side window?

A hoe might work. Would be awkward though.

hmm k well seems there's no way to ventilate this unit without increasing its height. I can't find anywhere online that can confirm if these side windows are removable

Slowly without craking it. Using a plastic tool.

Not if you pay her enough...

Lint free microfibre cloth

I got the wash and cure last week. I put the whole vat in for 2 minute wash cycle and dry with paper towels...works awesome

That wet paper for cleaning sunglasses

Tried cutting up pieces of microfiber and vigorously got the extra bits off. Still wound up with fibers. This is all too expensive for jobless me

I don't know what they are called

The little wipes for cleaning eye glasses

That

Even got lint free little salon wipe. Not so lint free

Blue shop towels and IPA. Never had a problem

Microfiber cloth and Sprayway glass cleaner.

Justin Miller same. If not ipa now plenty of other options

Blue disposable shop towels: lint won’t cause a print failure

Well there's your problem...
When you cut it up, you basically give it free reign to de-thread

See that little line? That's a lint failure. (nearly impossible to take a picture of

In summary, who wants a 5x used 5x failed photon :)

I use viva paper towels

I fire it in a 20,000 degree kiln.

Kim Wipes.

Microfiber cloths and ipa

I used to use microfiber cloth and I had problems damaging the fep now I use a silicon spatula the ones for cooking, I pour some alcohol in the vat and I scrape the fep clean no damage any more

I’ve got both the Mars in the photon, hit me up if you decide and out of those.

Constantine Greanias which one is easier to swap the lcd screen? That’s my main factor.

Constantine Greanias never mind I just Watch some you tube videos. The Mars seems the easiest, but anycubic not bad.
Thanks. Which do you like more?

Josh Mcavoy the mars seems to be more reliable
The photon has more support as far as photon verifier. You can just use the photon verifier anyway though so I would go with the Mars.

The Creality 3D LD-002R seems to have a really easy lcd replacement method . I was going to go with this printer but I couldn't find it locally .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8iugLD-nl8

Yes. They have a part that will replace the back plate with vent connector
Do it up just like you would a dryer.
If you really want to McGiver it up you can put an inline computer fan in the ducting.

I thought the photon s didn't have the back plate like the original photon

Andrew Cameron ooooooo. You might be right. Sorry

right now this is the only thing holding me back from buying. No proper way to ventalate

no, don't

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d......

Printing the mask would be the easy part. Finding the appropriate filter for it, now that's the hard part.

to actually use? you're safer just duct taping a hepa filter straight to your face.

CDC says 3d printed is as effective as these.

Kevin Robins i had many failures because the mask size are bigger than photon printing plate surface.

but they don't look cool

Mae Evelynn i’m not jockin’ because i would like to print masks for my surgery division. I can resolve later For the filters. Thanks

Valerio Anania .... But you also need to find proper filters for it. The filters need to be able to filter 20 nanometer particles from the air. That's .0000006 of an inch for you imperial folks. Without those specialized filters you might as well make a mask out of cheesecloth

Im not joking either. even SLA prints can be breeding grounds for bacteria and viruses. Filament and SLA resin is not antibacterial rated and definitely not anti-viral. I work at a university that does a lot of 3d printing based research and you would be astonished at how easily bacteria and viruses can grow on 3d printed plastics and resins.

Joe Civitello I don't know - I've seen some really cool bandana's.

Just do one of the Iron Man helmets! Or Mandalorian!

Also extremely difficult to clean due to all the crevices. Even SLA. There are ways to postprocess and coat prints to avoid it, but the materials are probably in relatively short supplies themselves at the moment.

Joe Civitello oh man, The good, the bad and the uggly?

Kevin Robins that not a problem for me thanks

Matt Hockenheimer ok but I need help for fitting mask project into photon printing plate

https://academic.oup.com/....../54/7/789/202744......

Valerio Anania Be careful, no UV resin I am aware of is tested for long term skin exposure.

Grazie a tutti per le risposte utili e l’aiuto fornito

No because you can’t print a mask capable of filtering out things bigger than .3 microns

Joseph Soneji i have my fp3 filiere, i need mask to fit them in

Don't. Encourage. Stupidity.

resin is biotoxic. dont make stuff to eat and breathe out of with it

you are not filtering out .3 microns, you are not filtering individual viruses, you are filtering airborne droplets which carry viruses

No

Funny that this cropped up. I was just watching about 3d printing (FDM) a mask out of an anti-microbial PLA.

Link below.


https://youtu.be/wg4Sgw11bM4

for people who 3d print a lot, y'all don't have many actual masks do you?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2709467

John Driggers agreed. I would not use any resin unless it's medical grade resin. The standard resins are not!

I reckon the fumes from offgassing resin would be more detrimental to health than just catching the virus ?

Mask do no good unless you are sick to help stop the spread

I feel like people are coming out of the woodwork to compete for the Darwin awards.

Ball Gag?

Jesus man... where have you been?!

Is this a shit post? I just joined this group two days ago to get advice on printing minis and these face mask and ventilator posts have been quite numerous.

Jilm Szalewski it's not usually like this ..

I'm so tired of these "don't do this" arguments. Go print masks. Put in a filter medium. Maybe a few coffee filters, maybe some fabric. Or both. Understand that they will not work 100%, maybe not even 50%. So what? If you take three measures that poten tially reduce your exposure by 20% each, you might have doubled your chances to not get infected. None of us want to risk getting this little critter, nor spreading it. Most of us under 50 will fully recover, even if we get it. The goal is to keep the strain on the medical system as low as possible, so that those of the riskiest groups can receive the medical care they need. Meanwhile, I'm keeping three printers busy churning out 50 of the budmen masks each day so I can bring a big box to medical personnel if needed. I have enough filament to produce about 500, and more on order. Go do the same.

I assumed so, it’s just gotten to the point where I’m wondering how the new posters haven’t already seen these exact same posts.

there are a lot of stl's on cults3d.com including one that I am printing now that looks like a darth vader mask..

Have you asked any medical personnel if they will use them? I did, and was told "Not a chance in hell".

John Driggers They will when they run out and have nothing but a scarf to wear.

George Weaver And then I'll print some. Until then, I'll wait and see if someone comes up with something more useful.

John Driggers i’m a doctor and a surgeon and i shall use it if i neeed

Walt Marti thanks from a doctor and surgeon

Capre!

yep, unless they're using the "toy-safe / food-safe" bio resin

John Driggers A close friend of mine cofounded a regional chain of immediate care clinics - something like 20 of them in three states. He now oversees training and procedures for 200+ doctors, and 600+ PAs, RNs, etc, and "would use them in a heartbeat." The budmen shield masks guard against splashes and droplets.

Chris Gough nah, they’d rather dish abuse and label one a fear-monger for advising use of a respirator for 3DP.

As far as timing - I'm printing now, so that when the need arises, there's no delay.

Jilm Szalewski this forum is toxic. Be ready.

Search function there must have been 100 posts about this. Sheesh. Time to quit all these doomsday groups

capra

So many people pushing the fear. It has to be coordinated that we get 20 of these post a day to keep the people scared or something.

I appreciate the heads up.

Tyler Davis You are free to leave the group. I can assist

I created a group dedicated to the (controversial?) subject of 3D printing for medical purposes, you are free to join it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/healthcare3dprinting/

Martino Barbon ok thanks

Resin, in my experience, isn’t super great for that sort of precision.

Have you try to print it flat directly on the plate ?

No, it would be pointlessly slow to do one at a time that way

you have to add supports. because the first print bottom exposure time is higger so the size would be tiny

like this?

Tom Inglis look ok to me

Lucas Parard will try tomorrow, thanks!

Tom Inglis what brand of resin are you using ?

Lucas Parard tech outlet grey

make a good master by hand, make a silicone mold, cast 20...

I love my photon and sometimes it just makes sense to work with other tools

Bastiaan Droned if I can get this right I can print off 15 or so at a time

Resin print shrink during curing.